Calling and Election

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Who is Man That He May Know God?

When I write “Who is man that he may know God?” you have to understand that “man” in this instance includes woman, just as Elohim and God include both father and mother, male and female. One cannot exist without the other. God is no respecter of persons, “…and he inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile.” (2 Ne 26:33) At the risk of ridicule, I hope to share in this post a very personal and sacred experience. The apostle Peter commanded us to make our calling and election sure and provided a guideline to do so. “Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.  And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith(,) virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. … Wherefore … give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.” (2 Peter 1:4-11)

My Experience

I have shared a few of my own experiences, establishing that the Lord in His grace and mercy has made himself know to me even in my imperfection and I have heard and know His voice. You may chose to disbelieve my accounts and my testimony, that there is a God who seeks a personal relationship with me, or you may accept it and allow it to strengthen your faith and confirm what you may also have experienced, and allow it to motivate you to seek a closer relationship with God. It matters to me that you believe; because of the charity that I feel to all of God’s children, and especially to my children and grandchildren, but your belief does not affect my knowledge or the truthfulness of my relationship with God. I am a common man without accolade or position but I have loved my God and I have sought Him diligently and He has spoken to me many times and wrapped me in His love and redeems me from my sinful nature each time I cry out to Him in faith, reaching to Him beyond my despair. By despair I mean my knowledge and acceptance of my weakness and inability to save myself in the least. But, I do not despair in Him who is mighty to save and quick to forgive. You must know that I love my God and my Lord and trust implicitly in Him. Therefore, in obedience to His request, I write this blog and more particular this specific post.

God’s Design

What I have come to know is that we are not here by shear happenstance, the product of billions of years of evolution, offspring of the primordial soup as science would feign lead us to believe, without meaning or hope of anything beyond the cruel daily grind, to eke out some small pleasure, only to die in the end without hope of any future, to evaporate into nothingness after such a fateful struggle. In Holy Scripture, The God of Heaven speaking to Moses said “…this is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.” (Moses 1:39) And, Jesus Christ himself said “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” (John 1:3)

To Know God and Jesus

What does God mean “… that they might know … God and Jesus Christ…”? Jesus said, “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. … He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. … If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. (John 14:16-18,21,23) Joseph Smith revealed, “John 14:23 – The appearing of the Father and the Son, in that verse, is a personal appearance; and the idea that the Father and the Son dwell in a man’s heart is an old sectarian notion, and is false.” (D&C 130:3)

Why Not Me?

Then why does it appear that God in His infinite wisdom makes Himself known to only some of His children? Jesus said, “… Father, … glorify thy Son, … that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.” (John 1:1-2) If we believe Christ, then what must we do to be given of God to Him?

Light of Christ

When every child enters the world they come with the “Light of Christ” or a conscience, inherently led to light, truth and goodness. Everyone without need of explanation understands and responds to portrayals of the conflict between good and evil. From childhood we are read to and watch the stories of Robin Hood, Cinderella, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and on and on. Why? Because it is inherent in us to know good from evil and to sympathize with the good. John 1:9 teaches “That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.” This is the first step, and the free gift of God to man. What is the next step back to eternity?

Baptism of Fire and Holy Ghost

If we listen to and follow the light of Christ it will ultimately lead us to receive baptism. Just as Christ received, the next step after baptism by water is the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost. When we are baptized we are invited to receive the Holy Ghost or in other words to be baptized by fire and the Holy Ghost. “But to as many as received me, gave I power to become my sons; and even so will I give unto as many as will receive me, power to become my sons. … And this is my gospel—repentance and baptism by water, and then cometh the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost, even the Comforter, which showeth all things, and teacheth the peaceable things of the kingdom. … I have looked upon thy works and I know thee. And verily I say unto thee, thine heart is now right before me at this time; and, behold, I have bestowed great blessings upon thy head; … if thou wilt hearken to my voice, which saith unto thee: Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on my name, and you shall receive my Spirit, and a blessing so great as you never have known.” (D&C 39:4-10)

The Holy Ghost is now our teacher and will instruct us in greater light and knowledge until we are brought back into God’s presence, whether through the veil or within the veil in the flesh. “But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.  … Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. … For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.” (1 Cor 2:10-16) (see John 14:16-18,21,23 again)

Given to Christ

This baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost is not yet when we are given to Christ. But by the Holy Ghost we will begin to be instructed in the mind of Christ and ultimately be lead to the ordinances of the temple, which are an invitation and a road map to seek our calling and election through the veil as a member of the heavenly Church of the First Born and the Elect of God. This calling and election through the veil is when we are conditionally given to Christ. After we are thoroughly tested by Christ in our knowledge, and demonstrate our commitment through the veil, we will receive that assurance from Christ in the flesh and then be given unconditionally to Him. Can you see that it is a process, one step after another? We must climb the ladder, one step at a time, understanding and performing each step before we can progress to the next. For those who are desirous and willing you may search out the testimony of others. They are available to those who seek.


Now why in the world would we want to go to this trouble? “Behold, there are many called, but few are chosen. And why are they not chosen? Because their hearts are set so much upon the things of this world, and aspire to the honors of men …” (D&C 121:34,35) We don’t yet understand! Our father Abraham said, “And, finding there was greater happiness and peace and rest for me, I sought for the blessings of the fathers, … having been myself a follower of righteousness, desiring also to be one who possessed great knowledge, and to be a greater follower of righteousness, and to possess a greater knowledge, and to be a father of many nations, a prince of peace, and desiring to receive instructions, and to keep the commandments of God, I became a rightful heir, … holding the right belonging to the fathers. It was conferred upon me from the fathers; … from the beginning of time, … or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, even the right of the firstborn, or the first man, who is Adam, or first father, through the fathers unto me. I sought for mine appointment unto the Priesthood according to the appointment of God unto the fathers concerning the seed.” (Abraham 1:2-4) What? We could receive greater happiness, peace and rest; greater knowledge; even the right of the first born? That sounds pretty desirable to me, if we truly understand and believe! And that is the great separator. Only those who are willing to sacrifice the treasures of the world and the honors of men will prove worthy to receive all of God’s blessings both through and within the veil. God extends His hand through the veil to test our knowledge, and we demonstrate whether or not we are desirous and willing to receive Him.


What did Abraham say he did to obtain? “And, finding there was greater happiness and peace and rest for me, I sought for the blessings of the fathers, … having been myself a follower of righteousness, desiring … great knowledge, and to be a greater follower of righteousness, and to possess a greater knowledge, and to be a father of many nations, a prince of peace, and desiring to receive instructions, and to keep the commandments of God, I became a rightful heir, … holding the right belonging to the fathers. It was conferred upon me from the fathers; … from the beginning of time, … or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, even the right of the firstborn, or the first man, who is Adam, or first father, through the fathers unto me. I sought for mine appointment unto the Priesthood according to the appointment of God unto the fathers concerning the seed.” (Abraham 1:2-4) Abraham received first the temporal and then the spiritual endowment. It is the pattern shown us in the temple. The Gospel of Jesus Christ leads us to the ordinances of the temple. Once we receive the ordinances it is up to us to follow the path that leads beyond the temporal ordinance to the true endowment of power in the priesthood, into the sure embrace of Christ and back into God’s presence. Can it occur in this life? It has been documented time and again in the scriptures and was the desire of Moses and Joseph Smith to bring us into God’s presence. It has occurred in our day and it is continuing to occur.

My Calling and Election

I sat in the car contemplating the new and amazing things that had just occurred in the last 2 weeks. Over a life time I had received many experiences and knew how God spoke to me by the spirit, but I had believed there should be much more. I was 55 years old, past my prime and the meridian of my life. If I didn’t discover soon, my life would be in vain. For months something had been tugging at my heart, telling me to cast off my unbelief and approach the Lord in “mighty prayer” and that I could experience something more. But it was just my imagination wasn’t it? On the other hand, weren’t we taught “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” (Revelation 3:20) Oh how I yearned to believe. Desire, believe, Act I thought. (Alma 32) I knew this was the pattern and had taught it many times to the youth.

For a few years I had been searching the scriptures, the internet, the words of Joseph Smith and praying mightily to the Lord, ever more diligently and intently than in my mission life, asking Him to show me my unbelief. I prayed for hours a day pondering what I had learned and asking for a confirmation of the true and an understanding and ability to cast off my unbelief. Slowly I began to have a mighty conversion, a growing understanding of Mormon’s and Moroni’s, No, of God’s intent for and the purpose of the Book of Mormon. I saw the meaning of the temple ordinances and the invitation to apply them in my life. I read of others who had been led, like me, in this same path and that were now offering their example of the Lord’s love and extreme grace in leading them along the path that I had for so long secretly hoped for.

It had become habit for me, the minute I pulled from the driveway and pointed the car toward work, to approach the Lord in prayer. I would begin by begging his forgiveness and adjuring his patience for my sinful nature. I then would move to petitioning Him to rebuke the adversary, the destroyer, the devourer, and all those who chose to follow him, and for God to send His angels to displace and be a shield, to minister, to be my companion and to influence for my good those that I came in contact with throughout the day. I would then spend the remainder of the drive, my lunch time and the drive home asking and then pondering the new things I was being given.

On one unexpected Friday morning I followed the normal routine but was inclined to cry out, “Father, where is the greater light and knowledge that you promised me! I have been trying my best to be obedient.” I had reviewed in my mind my temple covenants of both the Aaronic and Melchizedek Priesthood made in the temple and I pled, “I have been striving to keep all my covenants. I pray for Thy mercy, not on my merits, but because of the atonement of Thy Son. I desire to receive the greater light and knowledge you have promised to send me.” I sat pondering and gathering my thoughts, when I heard the following words distinctly in my mind in conjunction with a powerful confirmation by the spirit that my Savior was the voice saying, “Present him at the veil and his request shall be granted!” My mind began to spin! Was I dreaming or had I heard Christ’s voice from within the veil? The day was a blur. My prayers on the return home now escape me but I continued to marvel at what had occurred. I could hardly wait to hike up the mountain above my home Saturday morning, as I thought, to seek the face of the Lord. I believed it would occur. In this blog you can find the posts (A Reminder of Forgiveness and the Atonement, Why is “It” a Sin?) and read my accounts of two Saturday trips to seek the Lord in the mountain. I did not see the face of God then, nor have I yet. But, there is one thing that did occur that I was remiss to divulge in my previous accounts that I need to share. As I hiked up the mountain I was prompted to bow before a massive stone that stood chest high above the ground and that was at least 10 X 10 feet in size. I raised my voice to heaven seeking my calling and election. I was prompted to sacredly perform the ritual of the true order of prayer as I petitioned for this blessing. As I did I slowly began to be filled with peace and I was led to understand that I was washed clean through the blood of the Lamb. I was giving a personal calling to start a record in the form of a blog and compile the sacred experiences He would prompt me to share. Other things were affirmed along with my calling. As my written account of that day says, I was filled with joy and gladness as I floated on the wings of the spirit back down the mountain that morning.

Over the next weeks, in one of my daily morning prayers I was desirous to receive another witness if I had truly been greeted by the Savior through the veil and been sustained by the assembly of Christ. Again, the spirit testified strongly to my joy and amazement. I continue to need affirmation from time to time, that despite my nagging but slowly abating sinful nature my calling and election remains in force. I am still assured it does but there is significantly more testing and refinement that the Lord demands before I can receive an assurance in the flesh and the veil be parted.

It has now been over 6 months from that first visitation of my Savior. Was it because of mighty prayer, or was it a mighty desire, or was it because God wants all of His children to return to His presence? My desires are to my Savior and my trust is in Him. I have been prompted and it has been affirmed that it is time to publish this experience. He has shared other things through the veil that I am not required to divulge and that I am reticent to even consider. My desire to see my Savior and my God in the flesh remains intense. I find I have a greater capacity to rebuke the adversary and control my physical nature though I continue to struggle with the natural man. I recognize my utter dependence on Christ and God’s absolutely incomprehensible love and gracious plan of happiness and salvation. I find things of a spiritual nature to come more often, almost constantly. Maybe it is because I anticipate and expect it now. Is that faith or knowledge? I have an incredible and growing love for all of my fellow man and have an even greater desire to invite all to experience the joy and peace of the Gospel of Christ. It pushes me outside of my comfort zone. Actually, I think my comfort zone is expanding. As I write this I am buoyed up by the surges of the spirit. It confirms again and again, it is true, press forward, quicken your pace, greater things lie in store.

How does it happen? It is a miracle and still one of the mysteries of God to me. But, I can encourage you to seek it if you have not yet received it. I commend you into the hands of the holy spirit and the grace and mercy of God.

Heleman 3:27-30 Thus we may see that the Lord is merciful unto all who will, in the sincerity of their hearts, call upon his holy name. Yea, thus we see that the gate of heaven is open unto all, even to those who will believe on the name of Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God. Yea, we see that whosoever will may lay hold upon the word of God, which is quick and powerful, which shall divide asunder all the cunning and the snares and the wiles of the devil, and lead the man of Christ in a strait and narrow course across that everlasting gulf of misery which is prepared to engulf the wicked – And land their souls, yea, their immortal souls, at the right hand of God in the kingdom of heaven, to sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and with Jacob, and with all our holy fathers, to go no more out.

Jesus is the Christ; He truly ministers to his children who earnestly seek Him. I have received the undeniable confirmation, by the ministering of angels, of my calling and election at His hand, through the veil. I am striving to make it sure from within the veil. This is my testimony, in the name of Jesus Christ, my Savior whom I seek to embrace in the flesh.


  1. Desire!
    1. Do you recognize His voice?
    2. Do you seek His constant companionship?
    3. Do you pray until you feel His presence and find peace and answers to your prayers?
    4. Do you mentally spend more or less time with Him than you do your best friend?
  2. Believe!
    1. The scriptures speak of unbelief. Unbelief is false belief or false knowledge. It is the precepts of men mingled with scripture. It tells us we are different than Lehi a merchant, Nephi a son, Jacob a brother, Enos a hunter and a son, Benjamin a righteous king, Abinadi a believer, Alma the elder an unrighteous priest, Alma the younger a wayward son, King Lamoni, King Lamoni’s wife, King Lamoni’s Father, Nephi and Lehi the sons of Helaman who gave up the kingdom to serve, Samuel a believer, Mormon a 14 year old boy, The brother of Jared a faithful and believing saint, and Moroni rejected, hated and left to wander the remainder of his days. Were all of them witnesses of Christ? The Book of Mormon is a compilation of normal people, one of them just like you, who struggled through adversity and was blessed with a sure knowledge of Christ.
  3. Act!
    1. Study – The Temple roadmap, The Book of Mormon roadmap, the words of Joseph Smith, other Holy Scripture, Prayer and the Holy Ghost.
    2. Experiment/Practice/ Improve (Alma 32)
    3. Engage in Frequent Mighty Prayer (Read the stories of all those listed under Believe. Learn to pray mightily)
    4. Discover and Overcome your Unbelief
      1. Unbelief – I have to be perfect.
        1. Truth – We will be judged by the intent of our heart.
        2. Truth – Just striving so to do. D&C 46:9
      2. Unbelief – I’m not good enough/not worthy.
        1. Truth – Jesus Christ has atoned for my sins.
        2. Truth – Satan plants thoughts of fear and doubt.
      3. Unbelief – It doesn’t happen to people like me.
        1. Truth – Lehi was a regular person who heard, believed, and acted.
        2. Truth – There are regular people alive on the earth today who have experienced it.
      4. Unbelief – God doesn’t speak to little people today like He did anciently.
        1. Truth – God pleads with us through prophets to make our calling and election sure.
    5. Ask
      1. Have I received my C&E “but knew it not”?
      2. Can I receive my C&E?
      3. What must I do to receive my C&E?
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18 Responses to Calling and Election

  1. Matt says:

    Beautiful, thanks for your words and testimony! I myself am on the very same path… this part rings absolutely true to me “there is significantly more testing and refinement that the Lord demands before I can receive an assurance in the flesh and the veil be parted.” I have discovered for me the spirit withdrawals from time to time and I must of my own accord and knowledge struggle with what I know to be true, and act in accordance with that light already given. When endured faithfully the spirit returns to confirm, then more light is given and it comes in greater abundance than previously before. I feel as though I am being tested to see if I will, independent of the spirits influence, continue in righteousness or do I revert back to my carnal ways when it withdrawals. It makes me think of when the Father withdrew from the Son in His suffering, would the Son continue to do the will of the Father when He felt forsaken and abandon.

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    • Roy L Barrus says:

      I’m not very tech savvy so you may have gotten some blank responses.
      Thanks for your comments. Our journeys are all similar in ways but different in that they are uniquely ours. I’m 55 and have had a very fruitful relationship with my Father through the Holy Ghost. Now things feel a little different. More intense and more frequent. In fact each time I pray I have a much deeper connection. So far it had not subsided and I will do all I can to encourage it to continue. God bless you on your journey back to His presence.
      Roy Barrus


    • Roy L Barrus says:

      Are you still there after 3 years?
      I pray you are still progressing in your journey.
      I have thought back many times on your advise and council 3 years ago.
      I had just experienced something wonderful and amazing from the Lord and I was on a spiritual high that I thought would never end. I was naive. You had shared that even this would wane and I would be left to struggle. Thing never went back to my Pre C and E level but I too have now experienced ebbs and flows as I continue my journey.
      I have in the past couple of months had a very powerful resurgence accompanied by powerful adversarial struggles.
      I have been pleading and returning to knock at the veil over and over asking that I be allowed within the veil to receive the 2nd comforter.
      I have intensified my efforts to be more faithful in all my temple covenants.
      As I have done this the buffetings of Satan have increased.
      I have had many confirmations of my C and E made sure in the last 3 years and again this weekend.
      I have desired to connect with others who have been called and elected.
      If you are still there please drop me a line. Let me know how you are doing.
      My email is
      Best regards,
      Roy Barrus


      • Mike & Margie Stroud says:


        If you haven’t already done this, take a look at this site:

        Follow the Spirit, and let me know what you think.


        Mike & Margie Stroud

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        • Roy L Barrus says:

          I have begun to explore “Pure Revelation”
          It feels to be correct doctrine.
          I’ll let you know as I dig deeper.
          Thanks for sharing!


          • Bill Wren says:

            Hi Roy,
            The author “Anonymous “ has published a book about the Second Comforter in which he talks of his experience and among other issues talks about no longer paying tithing to the church. I for one cannot say whether he was led of God to to that or not, however it does seem inconsistent with the doctrine we are taught. Would you please share your thoughts on this. Thanks.


          • Roy L Barrus says:

            Hi Bill,
            I have only browsed pure revelations briefly and my comment was possibly hasty until I explore a bit more. My intent is not to solicite question or be any sort of authority on doctrine.
            Let me share my feelings toward the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
            I sustain and support the brethren from the top to the bottom. The 1st presidency and quorum of the 12 are prophets of God. I shared an experience in one of my blog posts about a witness and reconfirmation I received of this truth. In that witness I was taught that they are not perfect and despite their varied imperfections they are still the Lord’s chosen servants. What a burden this was lifted from my shoulders. If they are approved by the Lord, then I have nothing to worry about from them.
            More importantly, if they are approved of the Lord then they hold keys of the priesthood that unlock and open to us access to ordinances, covenants, promises and the potential realization of the “exceeding great and precious promises” spoken of by Elder Bednar in the Sunday morning session of the recent general conference. I also testify of this from personal experience.

            In a similar fashion I have numerous examples and a testimony of why I pay tithing, attend my meetings, serve in the church, worship in the temple and, in a word, “embrace” the church. The Lord has told me so and backed it up with the realization of ever increasing promised blessings.

            I wrote this blog for my family. I have shared it with the world because I was instructed, or rather called to do so by the voice of my Savior. I am reluctant to debate doctrine. I have addressed your specific questions and given answers to it and many others in my blog. I ask you to read my blog in its entirety if you want my answers. If I feel you are sincere, and the spirit dictates, I reserve the right to respond. However, in most cases I will leave you to search, ponder and pray, and allow the Lord to do His teaching.

            The Lord has established patterns in how He reveals truth and knowledge to those who faithfully seek. We must begin at the first and progress in order, line upon line. I have shared this pattern in my blog. It is when we try to gain the knowledge, without sacrificing upon the alter all that the Lord requires that we fall short and fall into the snares of the adversary.

            Thank you sincerely for your question because it has allowed me to consider my purpose and the spirit has whispered to me refrain in the future from commenting on the writings of Pure Revelations and others thoughts on this forum.

            My testimony is in my blog and I sincerely pray any who find it might grasp it’s purpose and my testimony and seek to replicate it in their life.

            Best regards, Roy


          • Bill says:

            Thanks for your reply. I actually have read all thru your blog and was familiar with the things you have shared. I would like to visit with you some more about your experience but would prefer to do it thru email. If you’re ok with this I believe you have my email address. I have observed your daughters responses to your blogs and the sweetness in their responses. It appears you are doing it right.


          • Roy L Barrus says:

            Hi Bill,
            I’m a pretty unsophisticated user. I am unaware of your email address.
            Why don’t you email me at rlb1958@gmail.Com


  2. Mary Weiner says:

    Thanks for sharing Roy. I am glad you did.


  3. Ryan says:

    Thank You!


  4. Mike Stroud says:

    Thanks Brother Barrus. I am 70 years old, and have also had a great revelatory relationship with the Lord. I am seeking to converse with him through the veil, and am praying to identify my “unbelief” so that I can cast it behind me. I am full of faith and confidence that these beautiful things will take place in His own time, in His own Way, and according to His own Will. Thank you for doing as you are bidden, and recording this testimony for those of us who are following this same Path. I marvel at how different the path is for each of us, yet the simplicity of it is….Receive the Holy Ghost, It will show you all things what your should do.”

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    • Roy L Barrus says:

      Mike my brother,

      I went back and reread my experiences this weekend from 3 years ago and found your comment. My heart is breaking that I did not connect at that time. Time passes and you now have been a blessing in my life. I am so glad that we have reconnected.
      This last month has been a wonderful resurgence for me. As I shared, it has met with considerable adversarial resistance. Huge spiritual spikes both from Heaven and then from hell. I can feel a tremendous battle raging around me right now. Something feels to be changing, storms are a coming. I feel it.
      There has been a reconnection with 4 brethren from the past who all have experienced our C and E made sure. I believe no coincidence.
      I will share more later.
      What are your observations and feelings.
      Your brother,
      Roy Barrus


  5. Longunner says:

    Thanks for your experience captured in the written word and to be bold enough to share it with the world…… Your outline at the end can be a roadmap for others trying to achieve the same goal… I add my witness to yours that it can happen to normal folks after much trial and testing …. The Merciful & Gracious Lord gave me That Heavenly Gift when I wasn’t consciously seeking it. If there was any qualifier it may have been that I was willing to do whatever The Lord required of me and in my own imperfect way I did all that was in my power to be the best I could be with His Help . Your fellow witness and brother in the Cause of Christ……


    • Mike & Margie Stroud says:

      Thanks Roy. I remember reading this a few years ago, my spirit soars when I contemplate your sacred experience. God bless you dear brother.


      Mike & Margie Stroud


  6. Roy L Barrus says:

    Thanks Longunner,
    I reread Lectures on Faith after talking with you Sunday. It was empowering and uplifting to read in lecture 2 of the father’s interacting and supporting one another in their mutual calling that they each received directly from the Lord.
    I have a similar blessing that most in our day and time do not. I have weekly and even daily access to a brother in the Lord and a mutual member of the church of the first born to interact with and mutually support one another.
    Some day I will share all the times you have lifted my hands when they hung down and strengthened by knees when they were feeble.
    Yesterday I read in Moses 7 the requirement to receive these things. I love the book of Moses in the Pearl of Great Price. It walks is through all the father’s receiving their calling and election from the Lord. JST Genesis 14 all. Every book of scripture really is all about individually having/gaining an intimate relationship with the Holy Ghost, then the Son and then the Father. That is also what the temple is about as well. But back to Moses 7. 33. And unto thy brethren have I said, and also given commandment, that they should love one another, and that they should choose me, their Father; but behold, they are without affection, and they hate their own blood; 1. Behold, our father Adam taught these things, and many have believed and become the sons of God, and many have believed not, and have perished in their sins, 27. and the Holy Ghost fell on many, and they were caught up by the powers of heaven into Zion.


    • Mike & Margie Stroud says:


      Have you received The Savior in the Spirit? I have been taught that all things must be created/received spiritually before they are made manifest in the flesh. All things! Ether 12:19 Thank you for corresponding with me. I value our association.


      Mike & Margie Stroud


      • Roy L Barrus says:

        The Lord’s timing is impeccable!
        Just this very morning as I rolled out of bed, I felt a renewed determination to turn more perfectly to the Lord. I had spent a distracted weekend less that focused on spiritual things and now my heart longed for the peace of the Lord’s presence. So I dropped to my knees in front of a long blanket chest at the foot of our bed, bowed both physically and emotionally before my Father, and once again as I have done innumerable times in my life, I confessed my sins and plead for mercy based on the atonement of Jesus Christ. After praying for my wife, children, grandchildren, parents, siblings and their families, and finally myself, I arose to wash up and prepare for the day. I have a bit of a ritual. I quickly contemplate whether to listen to conference talks, Book of Mormon, or Sunday school reading assignment for the week.then I turn on my bathroom blue tooth speaker and listen while I get ready.

        This morning I knew I had to turn first to my Book of Mormon parsonage studies. I was at Ether I listened,the Lord lovingly chastened me. As I listened I heard His familiar voice in my heart and in my mind. I have learned to distinguish the distant individual voices of the members of the Godhead. This morning I heard the Savior Chasten me. I paused to acknowledge His voice and accept His loving chastisement, then continued into Ether 12.

        Was it my recognition of and acceptance with a broken heart and contrition partly the cause? Was my repentance sufficiently swift? Was I as willing as a child to accept His rebuke and still turn to him accepting what ever might be the consequence? But, in the next few moments as I listened to Ether 12, I heard and felt his voice and the confirmation of blessings years previous, sealed upon me under his hand.

        This is the interesting thing, and it is taught in the temples. We first are given and learn to recognize the voice of the light of Christ through the veil, or in other words in our heart and in our minds. Then we receive the baptism if fire and learn to recognize His voice through the veil. Then we receive or calling and election under the hand of Christ through the veil and come to recognize His voice. And finally we have that calling made sure by the voice of our Father as we learn to distinguish his voice through the veil. The voices are much the same, but the recognition comes in our heart and mind as we have come to know them each individually. This much to this point is my testimony of what I know. This is receiving each member of the Godhead in the Spirit. The last and crowning step of the temple allagory is entering into their presence. How glorious this will be! This is my greatest desire, in the Lord’s due time.


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